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Samegrelo писал(а): Олгун Аксой Куадзба (Olgun Aksoy) –Генеральный директор «AkmisSeyahat»;
Эрхан Альтынпармак Куадзба (Erhan Altınparmak) – уполномоченный по связям с общественностью «Akmis Seyahat».
Я в детстве читал советскую повесть об убыхах Баграта Шинкубы. Там был историк-убых Квадзба. Во всех бедах убыхов там обвиняли жестоких турков.
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Один мой пост покажи с восхищением любым людером любой страны
Да не о твоём восхищении вопрос, а о том, что все разговоры о нынешней Турции сводятся к ударам в спину, реальным и вымышленным/желанным.

Странно, что надо напоминать, что в Турции в данный момент телеканалы закрываются десятками, журналисты в тюрьмах за 'оскорбление президента' и т.д. и т.п.… короче, весь набор! И кто-то серьёзно считает, что представительная делегация журналистов, в том числе официальные лица журналистских союзов, МИДа страны(!) самодеятельно в Абхазию пожаловали в такой момент?
პატივისცემით, ოცდა მეერთე
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Хотелось бы напомнить высокое слово СОЛИДАРНОСТЬ! И если в одной северной стране развелись гниды, то это не значит того, что остальных надо забыть
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XXI писал(а): Да не о твоём восхищении вопрос
Тогда не наговаривай.
XXI писал(а): самодеятельно
Допустили, повторяю.
Выбрали бы Саакашвили - никто б не поехал, ни турки в РА, ни армяне в ЮО.
Почему в Донбурас никто не едет? А в Крым - одни маргиналы?
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Stigal писал(а): Выбрали бы Саакашвили - никто б не поехал, ни турки в РА, ни армяне в ЮО.
Да что ты говоришь?
However, Turkey’s interests in Abkhazia go beyond trade. After the Russian recognition of Abkhazia, Ankara intensified its political links with Sukhumi. Since then, official visits by Turkish parliamentary delegations and diplomatic missions have become an almost regular occurrence. In recent years, these visitors have notably included Turkey’s then–deputy foreign minister Ahmet Ünal Çeviköz and Turkey’s ambassador to Georgia, Murat Buhran. The latter even stated without any reservations that Turkey and Abkhazia had established a special group to deepen “bilateral” ties (Tabula.ge, April 9, 2011; Ghn.ge, February 2, 2014).
https://jamestown.org/program/defying-g ... -abkhazia/
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Turkey-Abkhazia relations after Çeviköz
During Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu's visit to Tbilisi on Sept. 8-9, Foreign Ministry Deputy Undersecretary Ünal Çeviköz drove to the Abkhaz capital of Sukhum, where he met with Abkhaz officials.

The visit was reported as the first visit to Abkhazia by a Western diplomat since the five-day war between Georgia and Russia (Aug. 8-12, 2008). However, Abkhazia is a place Western diplomats frequently visit. EU Special Representative for the South Caucasus Peter Semneby was in Sukhum in July.

Çeviköz is an experienced diplomat who has served as the Turkish ambassador to Azerbaijan, worked effectively to relieve tension in the region during the five-day war and brought the Caucasus Stability and Cooperation Platform to the agenda. He knows the region's problems very well. He knows better than anyone else that the last bridges between Abkhazia and Georgia were burned after the five-day war. Moreover, following Russia and Nicaragua, Venezuela also recognized Abkhazia's independence. Bolivia is said to be next in line. A three-person delegation from Abkhazia traveled around Latin America last week to accelerate the process of Latin American countries recognizing Abkhazia's independence. During a period in which Abkhazia's independence process has begun to gain momentum month by month, Çeviköz could not have gone to Sukhum to engage in efforts to restart a peace process between Abkhazia and Georgia. Therefore, we can presume that a new process is going to start between Turkey, Georgia and Abkhazia. In other words, to prevent Abkhazia from unifying with the Russian Federation any further, Ankara may have asked Tbilisi to allow a controlled relationship with Abkhazia. To be more explicit, the door may be opened to preventing Georgia from disturbing ships on humanitarian missions or those involved in trade traveling between Turkey and Abkhazia over the Black Sea.

Turkey is rediscovering Abkhazia with the help of geographical, ethnic and cultural closeness. It has entered into an unstoppable multidimensional integration process with Abkhazia. A close relationship is being established with Abkhazia similar to the multidimensional relationship established with Cypriot Turks in the east Mediterranean region. The Black Sea is no longer a sea that separates Turkey and Abkhazia. Abkhazia is becoming one with the Black Sea coastline of Turkey.

Opening commercial ship transportation and a ferryboat line between Sukhum and Turkish ports on the Black Sea (İstanbul, Samsun, Trabzon) will boost confidence in solving the problem. The Abkhaz people will become interested in Turkey, in other words, the West.

The southwestern Caucasus region (Turkey, Georgia, Abkhazia) will be completely open to humanitarian and trade activity. The southwestern Caucasus, which were once divided by security barriers during the Cold War period, will reunite through intense cross-border cooperation. This will give Ankara the opportunity to improve relations between Tbilisi and Sukhum, even if only slightly. In conclusion, in the post-Cold War period, in order for the Black Sea region to become integrated, new policies concerning Abkhazia are necessary.
http://abkhazworld.com/aw/diaspora/168- ... er-cevikoz

A new era in Turkey-Abkhazia relations, by Hasan Kanbolat
Between May 28-29, marches against the government protesting rising unemployment, prices and corruption began in Abkhazia. A factor that has been increasing the general displeasure there is that banks are making it more difficult for customers to get loans. As part of this, thousands of Abkhazians gathered in front of the presidential offices to call for President Alexander Ankvab's resignation.

Protesters even occupied government and television buildings, forcing President Ankvab to take shelter in the Russian base located in Gudauta. In the end, Ankvab was unable to withstand the pressure from the protests, and resigned; parliament then decided to hold early elections on Aug. 24. The entire process of uprising and the resignation of the president of Abkhazia took place according to the traditions found in the North Caucasus; these traditions are unlike those anywhere else in the world. First off, the protesters did nothing to cause damage to property in the course of their protests. Also, the police did nothing to hurt the protesters. And as for Ankvab's resignation, he was convinced by local elders to make that move.

The presidential elections held on Aug. 24 were won by former Prime Minister Raul Hadjimba. According to a statement from the Abkhazia Central Election Council, Hadjimba gained 50.57 percent of the vote, or some 50,494 votes. As for the other candidates, the president of the Abkhaz National Security Unit, Aslan Bjania, got 35.91 percent of the vote (35,860 votes), while Abkhaz Defense Minister Mirab Kişmariya got 6.4 percent and former Abkhaz Interior Minister Leonid Dzapşba got 3 percent. A full 70 percent of registered voters cast ballots in the election. According to the Abkhaz constitution, a candidate who gets 50 percent of the vote in the first round of presidential elections earns the right to become president. Outside of Abkhazia, votes in this election were also cast in Moldavia, Cherkessk and İstanbul. In fact, some 460 votes were cast for these elections at the “Ballot No. 6” that was set up in İstanbul's Kadıköy district.

The results from this ballot box in İstanbul were as follows: Raul Hadjimba 307 votes, Aslan Bjania 81 votes, Mirab Kişmariya 27 votes, Leonid Dzapşba five votes. This despite a situation where outside intervention by police into the use of this ballot box in the early hours of Aug. 24 wound up preventing citizens from voting, at least at first. However, the ban on the use of this box was lifted at around 4 p.m. that day, and voting went on into Aug. 25 as well. According to the Abkhaz constitution, any problems involving ballot boxes both inside and outside of Abkhazia can result in the election being voided, which made the intervention into the Turkish ballot box quite significant.

The Republic of Abkhazia is recognized as being an independent and sovereign state by a handful of states. It is generally thought that Abkhazians living in Turkey number twice as many as those who live in Abkhazia. And even though there are no direct political relations between Turkey and Abkhazia, the two states are not only geographically proximate to one another, but also have strong economic ties. All of this means that, for Turkey, Abkhazia is quite important. In the month of August of this year, presidential elections were held in both Turkey and Abkhazia. Hadjimba does not expect the country to be recognized by Turkey. What he does want, though, is to see greater ease in transportation back and forth between these two states, as well as economic relations and stronger relations between its people. Which is why he would like to come to Turkey and meet with President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, even if only in an unofficial capacity. This is a meeting which many anticipate will occur in the coming months.

During 2013, the volume of foreign trade between Turkey and Abkhazia rose to $600 million. This is an amount which is not, however, reflected in official records. Instead, it is reflected in the foreign trade traffic occurring between Turkey and the Russian Federation, through the Sochi port. From Abkhazia, Turkey gets both coal and timber. There are large amounts of food, textiles and construction materials that are exported from Turkey to Abkhazia. Cargo ships carrying loads from Abkhazia use the ports in both İstanbul and Samsun. In Abkhazia, goods follow the Sochi-Sukhum road; there are also representatives for Turkish food, textile and construction companies in Sukhum.

Turkish companies have made significant investments in both the construction and agricultural sectors in Abkhazia. In the meantime, the Abkhaz diaspora is growing larger. Abkhazians coming from Turkey and Syria have managed to bring a new dynamism to their home country.
http://abkhazworld.com/aw/analysis/1256 ... n-kanbolat
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Вот это вообще замечательно. ДЕЛЕГАЦИЯ ОТ ПАРЛАМЕНТА ТУРЕЦКОЙ РЕСПУБЛИКИ
A delegation of members of parliament of the Turkish Republic in Abkhazia
SUKHUM -- A delegation of members of Parliament of the Turkish Republic arrives in Abkhazia.

The delegation includes MPs Ayhan Sefer Ustun, Ali Ihsan Yavuz, Hasan Ali Celik, Engin Ozkoç, and Munir Kutluata, Head of the Administration of the town of Sakarya, Zeki Tocoglu, Rector of the University of Sakarya, Muzaffer Elmas, Deputy Chairman of the Chamber of Commerce of Sakarya, Gunay Gunes, Chairman the Abkhazian Cultural Centre in Sakarya, Oral Kobas, and Chairman of the Caucasian Cultural Centre in Sakarya, Orhan Sari.

The delegation of Members of Parliament of the Turkish Republic is planning to meet Acting President and Parliament Speaker, Valery Bganba, and deputies.

Today there was a meeting with the Rector of the Abkhazian State University, Aleko Gvaramia.
http://abkhazworld.com/aw/current-affai ... n-abkhazia

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Ну про визиты Анкваба и Багапша в Турцию говорить не стоит...

http://abkhazworld.com/aw/diaspora/125- ... ompatriots

http://abkhazworld.com/aw/diaspora/162- ... sit-turkey

http://abkhazworld.com/aw/diaspora/158- ... its-turkey
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Samegrelo писал(а): Да что ты говоришь?
И кто виноват? Каков ответ властей Грузии? А на армяно-осетинский сабантуйчик как отреагировали?
Stigal писал(а): Почему в Донбурас никто не едет? А в Крым - одни маргиналы?
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Stigal писал(а): И кто виноват? Каков ответ властей Грузии?
А почему всё сводится к Саакашвили или мечтунам? При Мише была такая же картина, даже хуже - всякие "президенты" к туркам ездили.
Кто же спорит, что грузины ведут себя как мямли и никак не реагируют. Или что армяне ведут себя гораздо наглее и что прошлый случай - чистое позорище. Турецкие власти это как оправдывает? Зачем они туда ездят? Не бизнесмены, не журналисты. Хрен с ними, всё равно не одни такие (китайцы тут есть, украинцы, западники, да и грузины неофициально бизнесом занимаются). ЛЮДИ ИЗ ВЛАСТИ, пусть низшие. Ну а визит Багапша и Анкваба - это вообще финиш. И при Мише, заметь.
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